meeting date: 15 nov 2005 attending: Arpad Muranyi, Todd Westerhoff, Bob Ross, Ken Willis, Ian Dodd Barry Katz ------------- Review of ARs: AR: Mike fix EQ amp rcvr template Done, added declaration for a node. AR: Ian will draft a BIRD for analog-only AMS support in IBIS Posted. Will be discussed this Friday. AR: Mike add extrapolation warning to module documentation Added to modules documented so far. More work to do on documentation. PERL script ready. AR: Arpad to change IBIS buffer implementation to have two input control thresholds ??? AR: Everyone - target semiconductor companies for the macro library and key contacts - Barry talked to 1 company ------------- BIRD - Doesn't do anything, what is the intent? - New language name to make simulator interpret A/D and D/A requirements correctly. - Does IBIS spec allow parameters to be passed? - Berkeley SPICE doesn't - BIRD needs to be enhanced - Need some feedback from IBIS meeting this Friday AR: Arpad and Ian update BIRD after next IBIS meeting Array parameter passing problem - Arpad contacted Verilog-A compiler developer to discuss the problem. - They fixed it. - Same compiler used by HSPICE - Trying to get Synopsys to incorporate changes into HSPICE - Array "Length" parameter has to be passed in - Seeing light at the end of the tunnel (when, not if) - Getting people to test, we may have to tell them which tools to use Company Contacts - Barry has had contact - This contact may be able to engage middle of next year - Micron, Xilinx, IBM, Freescale, Intel, AMD, LSI? - AMD: John Dowling? How to proceed? - Letters? - Not much response to reflector queries - Still some library issues - Need to work a campaign into our conversations with vendors - It needs to work before it goes out to many - Get a "friendly" IC vendor trying it - Approach Micron? - Do they have a need? - high speed serial to parallel interfaces? - IBM tough nut to crack - Xilinx needs it, starting to ship encrypted HSPICE? AR: Todd contact Xilinx RocketIO team AR: Barry contact Randy Wolff at Micron VHDL library - Arpad running into IBIS buffer issues - Library hopefully done for next meeting Some library elements are not obviously useful - Do we need all those current source modules? - Who will ever use IBIS_CCL? - Ian - 63 modules in library - May be difficult for simulator implementors - Not sure if HSPICE has flux-conserving controlled inductor - Hard to say how these will be used ------------- Next meeting: Tuesday 22 nov 2005